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IRC log for #deepin, 2016-03-07

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00:01 jotapesse hi steev
00:01 steev hi :)
00:01 jotapesse have you looked at the arm section on the forum? http://en.bbs.deepin.org/forum.​php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=65
00:01 Vivians jotapesse, ↑ Title: ARM-Deepin Technology Forum-Deepin,Worth the Diggin'!
00:02 steev ah, i have not; thank you for the link
00:02 steev although, that link ended up taking me to the default page
00:03 jotapesse works here
00:03 steev it seems there's an issue with the ssl cert when using en.bbs.deepin.org
00:03 jotapesse try http://en.bbs.deepin.org/forum.php
00:03 Vivians jotapesse, ↑ Title: Deepin Technology Forum-deepin provides a powerful driving force for computers all over the world!
00:04 jotapesse scroll down
00:04 jotapesse under "community collaboraton" you'll find "ARM" section
00:05 steev i have it here
00:07 steev jotapesse: actually, while i have someone's attention... since i don't speak chinese... do you know what combination of things i have to click to change the interface into english?
00:08 jotapesse sorry, I have not yet experienced the arm build
00:08 steev i don't think it is specific to arm
00:09 jotapesse are you referring to the forum interface?
00:09 steev no, the interface of deepin
00:10 jotapesse the installer provides 40 different languages, you had that option when installing I suppose?
00:11 jotapesse around 40 I think
00:11 steev unfortunately ,no, the arm version does not offer a language choice
00:11 steev you load it up, and login as deepin
00:11 jotapesse ah, there you go, it's different then
00:13 steev there is no way in the desktop environment to switch to a different language?
00:13 steev in the settings
00:14 jotapesse yes, open up control center > keyboard and language > language (last item)
00:15 steev hm, i must miss some packages then, because i have set as American English
00:18 jotapesse I just tried, it gave a notification for a missing package, automatically downloaded, notified as changes and asked to logoff/logon
00:19 steev i do not have connection (they did not provide wifi firmware)
00:19 steev i will keep poking i guess
00:19 jotapesse anyway you may always try to install debian first and then install deepin from deepin repo/mirror, as suggested from another user here: http://en.bbs.deepin.org/forum.php?mod=vi​ewthread&tid=30645&extra=page%3D1
00:19 Vivians jotapesse, ↑ Title: deepin 15 ARM Edition Officially Released-Deepin Technology Forum-Deepin,Worth the Diggin'!
00:20 jotapesse deepin is based of debian sid
00:20 steev true
00:20 steev okay i will try that
00:21 jotapesse good luck! :)
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11:08 hualet_deepin hi iyzsong
11:08 hualet_deepin how are you ?
11:10 jotapesse hi hualet
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11:26 hualet_deepin hi jotapesse
11:26 hualet_deepin what does you name mean ? XD
11:29 jotapesse jotapesse is made by my 3 name initial letters, portugues spoken: jota+pe+esse (J.P.S.) - in english it would be something like JayPSse :)
11:30 jotapesse and yours?
11:31 iyzsong hualet_deepin: lol
11:38 hualet_deepin jotapesse: hua is how my name 华 pronounced in Chinese, so hualet is just a nickname for me from my girlfriend :P
11:39 jotapesse eheheh :)
11:40 jotapesse you're located in Beijing, China?
11:43 hualet_deepin jotapesse: nope, I work at Wuhan Hubei province, China
11:43 hualet_deepin so where are you from ?
11:43 jotapesse Portugal
11:43 jotapesse Europe
11:44 hualet_deepin great
11:45 hualet_deepin we all have great history :D
11:45 jotapesse Indee, two old nations in the world :)
11:49 jotapesse hualet: out of curiosity, what's is your role in Deepin team?
11:49 hualet_deepin jotapesse: I saw you said that you just installed deepin on your machine ?
11:49 jotapesse hualet: no, not me
11:50 hualet_deepin hmmm...it's hard to say, I release OSes and updates xD
11:51 jotapesse hualet: it was jenenliu perhaps?
11:51 hualet_deepin I don't know, perhaps I'm confused
11:52 jotapesse ok
11:52 hualet_deepin jotapesse: what do you do, bro ? if I may ask
11:52 jotapesse I'm a digital marketing and web developer
11:54 jotapesse I manage social networks, blog posts. I design and manage email marketing and some web development also
11:54 jotapesse I also do some linux system administration
11:55 jotapesse I currently work for a golf agency (tour operator) company but I'm looking for a better opportunity
11:59 hualet_deepin jotapesse: so awesome ! how do you manage to do all of this stuffs
12:00 jotapesse hardly, I tell you. That's one of the reasons I'm looking for a better opportunity.
12:00 hualet_deepin I do single job, but I don't even have much time to talk to continuously :P
12:00 jotapesse neither do I, most of tehj time :)
12:03 hualet_deepin jotapesse: what do you hope for your next job ?
12:05 jotapesse in the same area of expertise, but with better working conditions
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12:14 steev argh, what debian release do i need to use to install deepin;  seems like every release i try has the wrong libs
12:14 hualet_deepin jotapesse: sounds reasonable, good luck :D
12:15 hualet_deepin steev: what do you mean ? you don't need debian to install deepin
12:15 steev ahh
12:16 hualet_deepin you can install deepin like you install other distros
12:16 steev hualet_deepin: i do for my needs - i'm trying to run it on armhf
12:16 steev and it seems like deepin-manual is missing
12:16 steev https://bpaste.net/show/2ad1faa6160f
12:16 Vivians steev, ↑ Title: show at bpaste
12:17 steev same for deepin-music
12:19 steev hualet_deepin: i discovered deepin because of the nanopi2 image, which i really liked, but i can't figure out how to make the interface go to english (i'm american), so i wanted to install it myself
12:20 steev i'd also like to build it myself for arm64 because i have access to arm64 machines
12:22 hualet_deepin I'm not sure if the source for arm64 is open to the public right now
12:22 steev but it's like... there are dependencies on things that i'm not finding in any repositories; liblightdm-qt5-3-0; but debian stretch doesn't have that
12:23 steev ubuntu has it, but then there's a dependency on libbamf-3-0 or some such, which ubuntu doesn't have
12:26 steev i'm a gentoo developer, so i'm no stranger to building from source; but trying to just use debian packages.... is weird
12:27 steev i know most of the sources are on github as well, but i don't know of a decent way to clone them all - i saw git-repo; so i'm assuming repo is used, but i didn't see a manifest anywhere
12:28 jotapesse gentoo... ouch... that's not easy :)
12:28 steev jotapesse: i've been a gentoo developer since 2005 :)
12:29 felixonmars hello from an arch developer xD
12:29 steev hey felixonmars :)
12:29 steev felixonmars: any pointers? :)
12:30 felixonmars no idea for arm :(
12:30 steev arm isn't special
12:30 steev sure some things may require finessing, but building is typically identical
12:30 felixonmars i686/amd64 PKGBUILDs for most deepin pkgs are in arch's repo
12:31 felixonmars and afaik archlinuxarm took some of them and managed to build. however they may not be happy with them because of the slow repo
12:33 steev it's only a little slow :P
12:34 steev that's kind of why i wanted to build from git actually - pulling from github is a wee bit faster than from china
12:34 felixonmars that's also their request xD
12:34 hualet_deepin steev: try to put this entry  deb http://packages.deepin.com/armhf unstable main non-free contrib  in your /etc/apt/sources.list
12:34 steev hah, leming is good people though
12:34 Vivians hualet_deepin, ↑ Title: Index of /armhf/
12:34 felixonmars and they should be now using github already...
12:34 hualet_deepin and see if it helps
12:34 steev hualet_deepin: i have that
12:35 hualet_deepin and you still get the packages ?
12:35 steev well, not the non-free or contrib - let me add those
12:36 steev still get told that they don't exist
12:37 steev https://bpaste.net/show/4b19d498bf16
12:37 Vivians steev, ↑ Title: show at bpaste
12:41 hualet_deepin steev: http://packages.deepin.com/armhf/pool/main/
12:41 Vivians hualet_deepin, ↑ Title: Index of /armhf/pool/main/
12:42 steev hualet_deepin: see in http://packages.deepin.com/armhf/pool/main/d/ - there's no deepin-music or deepin-manual
12:42 Vivians steev, ↑ Title: Index of /armhf/pool/main/d/
12:43 hualet_deepin steev: then I can't help, sorry :(
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12:44 steev it's okay; whoever pushes packages there just needs to push those too
12:44 jotapesse steev: do you have the deepin source list simultaneously with debian source list?
12:45 steev jotapesse: my sources.list is only the debian stretch.  the deepin parts are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/deepin.list
12:45 steev https://bpaste.net/show/89ee29193cec
12:45 Vivians steev, ↑ Title: show at bpaste
12:46 steev i've tried ubuntu trusty, ubuntu xenial, debian jessie, debian stretch, debian unstable
12:46 steev every single one has some missing library
12:46 steev when using debian, it's usually the liblightdm-qt5-3-0, and when using ubuntu it's the libbamf-3-0 or some such
12:47 jotapesse ok, but APT with work with both simultaneously and different versions of dependencies may colide. Since you have already installed debian I would replace debian source for the deepin source, and remove any debian source reference. Then update and retry
12:48 steev jotapesse: which deepin source though; if you look at the armhf link above, there are *only* the deepin desktop packages; there needs to be a base
12:50 jotapesse good point. I was thinking it would be the same as the i386/amd64 repo: the deepin repository is just a frozen debian sid with custom added packages
12:50 jotapesse not for armhf it seems
12:50 jotapesse perhaps hualet could help
12:52 felixonmars deepin is based on (somewhat outdated) debian sid, iirc
12:52 steev it can't be that out-dated, it requires qt 5.5
12:52 felixonmars yeah, usually just weeks late
12:53 jotapesse yes, a few days/weeks between deeepin updates
12:53 steev that said... if it's sid, i'll switch to sid from stretch and see if that helps
12:53 jotapesse should be the same, not much difference, but hey, try
12:54 steev nope
12:55 steev dde-session-ui : Depends: liblightdm-qt5-3-0 but it is not installable
12:55 steev alright, enough wasting time on that, build from source is easier
12:57 jotapesse you brave man
12:57 felixonmars xD good luck
12:57 jotapesse got to be a gentoo guy
12:57 jotapesse :)
13:00 steev eh, i've got an 8 core 16gb arm64 server, it doesn't take long to compile stuff :)
13:03 jotapesse I once upon a time, some 15 years ago, installed gentoo. I compiled it for a full day and a night. Never tried it since :)
13:04 jotapesse That was i386 compile of course
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13:07 bobo123 Hi all
13:08 jotapesse hi, bobo123
13:08 bobo123 Hi hualet_deepin jotapesse
13:15 steev jotapesse: yeah, things have changed these days, now it can be done in a couple hours
13:23 hualet_deepin steev: The repository is just for testing right now, so it may not be complete
13:28 steev hualet_deepin: it is okay; i will try to figure out what i'm doing and build from the sources :)
13:38 hualet_deepin OK :)
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18:26 steev so, https://cr.deepin.io/#/c/11194/ - this is actually incorrect - specifically, the assumption that armv8+ = 64bit - there is actually aarch32 (cortex-a32), and e.g. the rpi3 which is a 64bit chip but running in 32bit; pretty sure that check would cause issues with both
18:26 Vivians steev, ↑ Title: Gerrit Code Review
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