Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #deepin, 2017-05-16

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Time Nick Message
00:09 brainy welcome back, vodcod
00:25 vodcod heya brainy
00:25 vodcod how are you?
00:25 vodcod sorry I didn't respond, was away
00:25 vodcod just booted comp
00:26 brainy vodcod: a bit tired but good, thx
00:26 brainy vodcod: are you still into deepin?
00:26 vodcod I love deepin
00:26 brainy Cooool
00:26 vodcod I just have so much stuff going on, I offered to contribute a while ago
00:27 vodcod I am contributing to ghostbsd right now as well as chitwanix in the future
00:27 brainy wow great
00:27 brainy chitwanix, thats the nepalese distro i think
00:27 vodcod nobody at deepin wanted any help, I offered to fix up their marketing materials/websites because the english grammar was terrible
00:27 vodcod its such a good distro and yet when it comes to english it is so well done in the actual OS but the website is terrible
00:27 brainy yeah its weird, they dont seem to want any help
00:27 brainy yep
00:28 vodcod if they allowed the community to help, they would be better off, but, its still a great distro
00:28 vodcod and they are all super friendly people
00:28 vodcod hualet who is here is super
00:28 vodcod well not here now, but you know, here often
00:28 vodcod from the team
00:28 vodcod I think that says a lot that the team actually bothers to talk to the community and put themselves out there, I respect that a lot
00:29 brainy Totally agree, vodcod
00:29 brainy we need hualet back, btw
00:30 vodcod I been running mint mostly for the past 3 - 4 years, Deepin is the only other distro I run right now, I thought elementary was going to be great, but the team behind it is very dogmatic in their bizarre UI concepts of no maximize and controls and so on, it makes for a very dysfunctional OS, the fact there is even a standardized 3rd party app to fix the OS tells you everything
00:30 vodcod elementary did so many things right, its bizarre how they got that stuff wrong and the way they hang onto it and refuse to change is weird
00:31 vodcod the UI is like a gorgeously designed blind woman or something
00:31 brainy what 3rd party apps do you mean?
00:31 brainy lol
00:31 vodcod the elementary tricks app or whatever its called
00:32 vodcod the app that allows you to have desktop icons and allows you to have standard windowing functions like maximize/minimize
00:32 brainy wow it doesn't haz that?
00:32 vodcod its not perfect because with pantheon its unable to fix the desktop icon text to where it has outlines, so you can only run certain backgrounds to be able to read what files or folders or apps are called
00:32 vodcod its shitty of them to do that to people
00:32 brainy really weird man
00:33 vodcod to make a UI w/o desktop icons and without the ability to wok with windows in a standard way, I dont get it at all
00:33 vodcod I tried talking to Daniel Fore about it, he didn't respond
00:33 vodcod wouldn't discuss that issue at all, I get upset b/c I know how little it would take to fix those issues and they staunchly defend them, I think its ego at work
00:34 vodcod deepin is probably the most refined desktop OS in existence really, it still has that openness of POSIX but at the same time, they do everything right
00:34 vodcod some PPA's dont work with it, thats my only complaint lol
00:34 vodcod I run mint just because its more open and easy to mod
00:35 vodcod mate+docky just, works
00:35 brainy what would be the advantage of having no desktop icons? looks cleaner i guess?
00:35 vodcod docky used to be unstable now it seems just fine
00:35 brainy yeah
00:35 vodcod brainy its not having no icons, its why do they forbid the user to select it as an option?
00:35 vodcod thats my complaint
00:35 vodcod b/c they actually have to work harder to do that
00:40 brainy vodcod: i understand now
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13:12 Alaa hello
13:12 Alaa love deepin!
13:13 Alaa but I was wondering why most if not all the apps in the store (repos) are outdated ?
13:13 Alaa it is probably the only thing that keeps me from using it.
13:18 brainy hi Alaa
13:19 brainy tanay asked that question yesterday, unfortunately I don't know the solution
13:24 Alaa ok brainy, guess I'll stay here for a while he may see this.
13:25 brainy Alaa: oki doki
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15:03 tanay Alaa: you can use latest software and packages with having added a resource to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
15:03 tanay Alaa : deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main
15:03 tanay but use it with concern , it may break the system
15:04 tanay Alaa: I just installed the latest kodi with this and removed it afterwards
15:17 Alaa yeah thanks but that's not exactly what I would do.
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15:18 Alaa I can get the latest packages from various sources for the apps I would use, but I want the updates to come from deepin repos.
15:19 tanay you can use it though on selective occasions
15:20 Alaa yeah exactly, but my main concern is what is taking the deepin team so long to updates the apps in their repos.
15:20 tanay you may download it from sites but often one software takes more than one packages to download separately, there you may face the problem. I too tried by downloading kodi from sites . But dependencies were not met.
15:22 Alaa yup, there will always be a dependency issue, that's why I would like to see the updates coming from deepin repos.
15:23 Alaa I see there is activity on their mailing lists as they are working on the core OS/Applications, but what about the rest of the software.
15:23 tanay deepin has only one repo. that too not updated. according to their site in june there will be 15.4.1 coming up
15:25 Alaa Ok so their update frequency is what ? every 3 month ? also not all apps get updated with their releases.
15:35 Alaa ok I have to go now, good talking
15:35 Alaa cya'all later
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16:48 brainy welcome back dardevelin_
16:48 brainy I know you don't speak, still wanted to say hi.
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